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[foolmetwice]

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[HIT HIM UP WITH SOME MESSAGES SHOULD YOU CHOOSE]

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[foolmetwice]

[raises a brow]

By all means, establish the foundation first.

[avestan]

[another sip of coffee]

What you're looking at here isn't... my default state, you could say. In the first place, Servants don't normally have physical bodies, but I'm a bit different from even that. I didn't originally even have a shape or identity.

[foolmetwice]

[what's a servant]

[that's a question for later]

[he nods in response to this though, silently asking Doodle to continue. he'd rather not interject his impressions and assumptions into the conversation just yet, in case he's wrong about them]

[avestan]

Because of some special circumstances, I gained the ability to take on a form by copying an existing person's body and memories. And by adding on traits specific to "me," I can construct a unique appearance based on that.

[foolmetwice]

[another nod]

So you used that "Emiya" guy as your base?

[avestan]

Yeah. That's why I look kinda like him. And why I turned into him when the game made me human.

[foolmetwice]

[. . .]

He's way different than you are.

[avestan]

No shit. I might have based myself off of him, but I'm All the World's Evil, y'know? So of course I'm gonna be different from some goody two shoes human.

[foolmetwice]

[SNORTS]

That's not what I meant, since I think you're kind of bad at being ~all the world's evil~.

He was actually brave enough to fight me.

[avestan]

Nothing about being evil implies being brave or strong.

[foolmetwice]

I was contesting the premise that you are evil, you know.

[avestan]

...Yeah?

[foolmetwice]

Yeah.

You're just a guy with a lot of feelings. You hate a lot of people, but you also care about some of them, too. You're violent and want to stab people because you hate them, but-- [shrugs]

I dunno. Not dealing with feelings well doesn't make you evil.

It just makes you a li'l fucked up. And who here isn't?

[avestan]

Y'know, back where I come from, I came really close to destroying the world a couple of times. And if I had the opportunity, I'd go for it again. I'd kill everyone, including the people I care about.

[foolmetwice]

Like I said: real fucked up.

[ain't gonna sugarcoat that]

But I think truly "evil" people don't care at all. And that's obviously not your case.

[avestan]

So by your definition, no one who cares about someone is evil? No matter what they do?

[foolmetwice]

[shrugs]

I think "evil" is kind of a dumb word, anyway. So is "good," for the record. People are a lot more complex than "good" and "evil," so.

Maybe that just means nobody is really "evil."

[avestan]

Hm.

If people can't be evil, do you think actions can? If an action is truly unforgivable, would you describe that as evil?

[foolmetwice]

[his expression wrinkles, because he doesn't like complex philosophical conversations. that said—]

Yeah, I guess so. But isn't that something for the victim to decide?

[avestan]

[maybe if you don't want a philosophical conversation don't make claims about someone else's fundamental nature mars!]

Of course the victim has more right to judge than anyone else, but you can't say others can't make judgements as well. That's what every legal system in the world is based on.

[foolmetwice]

[shut up doodle!!]

Yeah.

But consider: every legal system in the world is bullshit.

[avestan]

Ooh, now there's a claim! I mean, I agree but that's because I think humans are bullshit in general.

If legal systems are bullshit, how would you handle the issue of crime? Do you think people should just be free to do anything they want?

[foolmetwice]

[uuuugh]

Ask me again when I start giving a shit about society as a whole and not just the people I care about.

[avestan]

[lol]

Then maybe you shouldn't be making statements about society as a whole.

[foolmetwice]

I'm allowed to be critical of a flawed system even if I'm not sure how I'd do it better, you know.